In this interview between Khalid Musab Shamboul and Zainab O M Gaafar on the topic of tea and milk, how this drink and its related cultural practices can be used to understand the urban and rural relationships and the dynamics of change in city life.

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Dr. Khalid is an Environmentalist with 20 years of progressive professional experience in Environment and Climate Change in Sudan with advanced expertise in community based Environmental management. Experience in developing and conducting national /international communicational reports and assessment, managing and coordinating projects and providing technical advisory services to different Agencies in strategic and programme planning and capacity development in adaptation to climate change, water and sanitation, and environmental management. Currently Khalid is Technical Advisor for the Safeguarding Sudan's Living Heritage, providing expertise on environment and culture.

Zainab is an architect, researcher, and designer. She is the founder of Studio Urban, an experimental research studio based in Khartoum. Zainab and Studio Urban have a keen interest in urban studies, their intersection with culture, and the accessibility of knowledge related to the city, including its history, development, and policies. The studio develops media and podcasts and uses community engagement tools in it;s research practices. Currently, Zainab is the lead designer for Safeguarding Sudan's Living Heritage. As part of her work, she endeavours to address questions related to the role of museums in times of conflict and what it means to safeguard heritage outside of such institutions.

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The intro song from Hambareed, composed by Nile

Header picture : Almigdad osman, Gezira

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